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the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure, constantly pitting one america against the other. in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader does it is petty, it's small minded,
the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure,...
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he admits that in the last four years, that's the obama years, the middle class has been buried. highest price of gasoline in the history. hits the middle class. the unemployment rate hits the middle class. the debt being piled up, hits the middle class. but then he goes on to say something which is frankly nutty. no republican is proposing a tax increase in the middle class. none, zero. there are no proposals to raise taxes on the middle class. who is proposing to raise taxes? obama? who has a whole range of tax increases in obamacare? obam a. biden pivots and charges the republicans with something totally false, after having atd mitted that in the time he was vice-president, the middle class was buried. i agree with paul ryan's characterization. buried by tax, buried by unemployment and buried by reg iewdle, it's buried by debt and a variety of government actions, under obama and biden. i am sure that he wishes he hadn't said it. but joe biden in that case, was sharing an insight into what's happened. >> greta: two-part question. what is the one question president obama doesn't
he admits that in the last four years, that's the obama years, the middle class has been buried. highest price of gasoline in the history. hits the middle class. the unemployment rate hits the middle class. the debt being piled up, hits the middle class. but then he goes on to say something which is frankly nutty. no republican is proposing a tax increase in the middle class. none, zero. there are no proposals to raise taxes on the middle class. who is proposing to raise taxes? obama? who has a...
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. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way since that debate where he told hillary clinton she was nice enough. he'll be very contained, very self-controlled and i suspect very presidential. my guess is that's part of the whole preparation process the president's gone through. he's not going to let mitt romney get under his skin because he's very conscience of the fact that that would represent a victory for romney. that would become the story of the debate, much as al gore's size became the story of the 2000 debate. >> the bridge of size. thank you. thank you very much. as we go to break, new poll
. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way...
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this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night, basically just at the end of the debate. this was a disaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach. his effete wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving romney a second look. obama looked tired, even bored. he kept looking down. he wasn't there. the person with authority on that stage was romney. offered by one of the lamest moderators ever and seized with relish. this was romney the salesman and my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. it's beyond depressing, but it's true. gentlemen, that's a tough assessment. it's matched by this, i'm showing you one of the strongest headlines, a full banner basically giving it completely to romney last night. governor rendell, you have been in a lot of tough debates. i don't know what you thought. i guess i'm known as an obama supporter and i certainly wanted him to do well last night, and yet i don't get it. i don't quite get i
this is a tough blog by a guy who has been very strong for obama over the years. andrew sullivan of the daily beast. he wrote this last night, basically just at the end of the debate. this was a disaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach. his effete wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving romney a second look. obama looked tired, even bored. he kept looking down. he wasn't there. the person with authority on that stage was romney. offered by one...
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president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the country could be entering in one of the most serious recessions in decades, led by wall street's 700-point sell-off. >> now four years later, the president who faced john mccain in those debates and beat him faces his new republican challenger for the first time. >> i'm looking forward to head to head. >> an mirror image of '08, a campaign is chaotic mash. new issues, new controversies, every day. the polls are bad for romney and good for obama in the swing states. but the national numbers are as tight as they get. the primaries are over, the conventions are over, but the debate
president bush, he should have ran four years ago. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market...
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fihting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> i have my own plans, not the same as simpson-bowles but in my view the president should have grabbed it if he wanted to make adjustments take it, go to congress and fight it. >> that's what we have done, make adjustments and putting it before congress right now, $4 trillion plan. >> you have been president four years, you have been president four years, you said you would cut the deficit in half, we still have trillion dollars deficits, a we will be have a trillion-dollar deficit each of the four years if you are reelected we will get to a $20 trillion debt. >> rose: it will be seen if romney can keep up the momentum. we begin this evening with analysis of chris matthews of msnbc, welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: as you watched the debate last night, what was your reaction to what you were seeing, b, why do you think it was that way, and, c, where are we going from here? >> well, i think governor romney knew it would be a wide open format and he came in to take charge. he was a commanding presence
fihting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> i have my own plans, not the same as simpson-bowles but in my view the president should have grabbed it if he wanted to make adjustments take it, go to congress and fight it. >> that's what we have done, make adjustments and putting it before congress right now, $4 trillion plan. >> you have been president four years, you have been president four years, you said you would cut the deficit in half,...
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debt in four years. you told me once, congressman, we have maybe two or three years before an economic calamity. explain what you mean? >> yeah. that's what the experts have been coming to the budget committee for years saying, if we keep staying on this path, we will have a debt crisis like what is engulfing europe. we have to get off this path. mitt romney's proposed a plan to get us off this path. president obama is doubling down on this same direction. we can't keep spending money we don't have. we will have a debt crisis, much like that in europe. they say, we don't have that much time. we have a window of opportunity. the next president will decide how this is determined. this man has put a plan out to prevent that from happening to get the economy growing, prevent a debt crisis and save the people who depend on these programs that they have been promises for them. the country saw the choice they have to make. >> sean: one last question with the two of you. governor romney, you brought up the $716
debt in four years. you told me once, congressman, we have maybe two or three years before an economic calamity. explain what you mean? >> yeah. that's what the experts have been coming to the budget committee for years saying, if we keep staying on this path, we will have a debt crisis like what is engulfing europe. we have to get off this path. mitt romney's proposed a plan to get us off this path. president obama is doubling down on this same direction. we can't keep spending money we...
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. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on what the policy will be. >> you're not turkish are you? >> no. >> i've been in health care for 37 years as a provider and i am completely 100% for the affordable health care act. thank you president obama. >> i just want to know what we're going to do about the student's act. >> what percentage do you pay in interest? >> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know w
. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on...
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can all of president obama's promises he made four years ago really be done in four years? >> reporter: what do you think, is four years enough? >> i don't think so. >> reporter: they all wish they had a fact checker standing by to sort through the flurry of claims and counter claims. is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i approach they are both lying to me and i'm basing my decision on that. >> reporter: the question i have that maybe you can't answer, why can't you make up your minds? they all said the rest of the debates are now more crucial. after watching round one, perhaps significantly changed the entire race. ron allen, nbc news, denver. >>> all right. speaking of fact checkers, we'll talk to one next, but we did ask you what you think, was mitt romney's debate performance the october surprise? andrew kelly wrote, unfortunately yes, but at least the president didn't sling mud. from ryan ross cummings, romney's flip on policies threw off obama, period. ady for a taste of
can all of president obama's promises he made four years ago really be done in four years? >> reporter: what do you think, is four years enough? >> i don't think so. >> reporter: they all wish they had a fact checker standing by to sort through the flurry of claims and counter claims. is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i approach they are both lying to me and i'm basing my...
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we've been talking about this for a couple years. for some reason the republican party and their conservative allies can't get away from describing obama as muslim, not born here, not believing in america. >> i know, i know, i know this is what they do. the head of florida's gop where the call appears to originate told "the st. augustine record," it was off script completely. we have everything scripted. those are clearly not the views of the republican party of clay county or the mitt romney campaign. they did not deny the incident. this whole thing about it was a renegade, it was a rogue operation, those polling operations, those -- there are people sitting in rooms, sitting in call stations. you have people sitting next to you, sitting to your left and right. nobody ever heard her saying that? >> well, they claim not. >> these are phone banks. >> they're supposed to have scripts. if a person says "a," you say "b," if they say "b," you say "c." if this was a rogue, this was someone who -- >> the reason i bring this up is when they
we've been talking about this for a couple years. for some reason the republican party and their conservative allies can't get away from describing obama as muslim, not born here, not believing in america. >> i know, i know, i know this is what they do. the head of florida's gop where the call appears to originate told "the st. augustine record," it was off script completely. we have everything scripted. those are clearly not the views of the republican party of clay county or...
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next year. and likewise, a study by mckinsey and company of american businesses said 30% of them are anticipating dropping people from coverage. so for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board, and for people losing their insurance, this why the american people don't want medicare -- don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this. and the republicans had a plan. they put a plan out. they put a plan, a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this important has to be done on a bipartisan basis and we have to have a president who can reach across the aisle and fashion important legislation with the input from both parties. >> governor romney said this has to be done on a bipartisan baasis. this was a bipartisan idea. in fact it was a republican idea. governor romney at the beginning of his debate said what we did in massachusetts could be a model for the nation. and i agree that the democratic legislators in massachusetts might have given so
next year. and likewise, a study by mckinsey and company of american businesses said 30% of them are anticipating dropping people from coverage. so for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board, and for people losing their insurance, this why the american people don't want medicare -- don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this. and the republicans had a plan. they put a plan out. they put a plan, a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this...
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i wanted to say obama -- everything is turning around right now in the economy. and i want him to be in office for he can take the credit for what he has done. >> stephanie: exactly. i'm surprised that mittens hasn't taken credit for the drop in the unemployment rate as well. >> yeah. >> stephanie: do you have it? >> yeah. >> stephanie: a lot of people like big bird you know? [ mocking laughter ] ♪ i like big bird and i cannot lie, you other brothers cannot lie ♪ ♪ cookie monster just can't go on ♪ ♪ i like big bird and i can't deny ♪ [ mocking laughter ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: thank you, rocky mountain mike. sue in rockville, maryland. you are on the "stephanie miller show." good morning sue. >> caller: good morning. yesterday they stated took 13 hours to really fire back at romney. but now that romney is a moderate my two questions are what are the tea baggers going to do? and what about his tax returns? >> yeah i forgot about those. >> caller: but the most exciting thing, stephanie? i'm coming to new york! >> are you bringing the bar baby? >> c
i wanted to say obama -- everything is turning around right now in the economy. and i want him to be in office for he can take the credit for what he has done. >> stephanie: exactly. i'm surprised that mittens hasn't taken credit for the drop in the unemployment rate as well. >> yeah. >> stephanie: do you have it? >> yeah. >> stephanie: a lot of people like big bird you know? [ mocking laughter ] ♪ i like big bird and i cannot lie, you other brothers cannot lie...
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but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, grow stronger and get back to work. everyday you see all of us
but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the...
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president obama's campaign is nearing the $1 billion mark this election year as far as raising funds. how much of an impact does this type of money have as you near the election? >> well, it becomes important because there's still a lot of views being shaped about the race through negative advertising that you see in the battleground states. and so, you know, i don't think campaign cash is going to be a huge issue for either side but it is a measure of some enthusiasm which right now is benefiting republicans a bit more and certainly romney helped himself in that regard with such a strong debate. >> political pundits will tell you mitt romney won the debate on wednesday night. apparently voters agree. according to gallup's daily tracking poll, obama's three-point lead, 49% to 46% down from a five-point lead reported the day before. was the debate the game changer that the romney campaign was looking for? >> it was in terms of his own campaign and i think his ability to get a second look by voters. we're going to have to see as more polling comes out whether we see a further tightening
president obama's campaign is nearing the $1 billion mark this election year as far as raising funds. how much of an impact does this type of money have as you near the election? >> well, it becomes important because there's still a lot of views being shaped about the race through negative advertising that you see in the battleground states. and so, you know, i don't think campaign cash is going to be a huge issue for either side but it is a measure of some enthusiasm which right now is...
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but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,00
but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the...
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it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there and i think most of us agree that really, they've both got good ideas and great candidates but what it comes down to is, which plan the is better for america. ultimately, i'm leaning towards romney but there's still a couple more debates left and -- >> keira you said you don't have enough information. you're a kindergarten teacher here in the denver area. not enough information? there's so much out there. we've been campaigning for a year. >> finding the information that youch can connect with and the information that you can and i'm still looking for that. >> chris, wh
it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there...
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my 8-year-old daughter who asked, why is president obama so mad? and i think that's a really georgia, you know, good way of putting it. it looked as though he was at the wrong debate, he was in parallel play. and he had the classical presidential case of no one has spoken to him that way in four years. >> stop and say that again. chris matthews said it last night. maybe he was hailed at chief one too times. >> no one has spoken to him that way. no one has tried to interrupt him in four years. think it showed. >> that's what happens. emp agrees with you. it's hard to the say to the president, you're wrong, sir. no one interrupts you. no one tries to tell you control the room. that's the power of the presidency. he hasn't had an argument since john mccain in the third debate in 2008. a real argument of this kid kind. you're fighting for time. you're fighting for control of the room. it's not something a president has to do. >> any president, any governor, any senator, you're almost indignant that somebody would challenge you because you're you. a pre
my 8-year-old daughter who asked, why is president obama so mad? and i think that's a really georgia, you know, good way of putting it. it looked as though he was at the wrong debate, he was in parallel play. and he had the classical presidential case of no one has spoken to him that way in four years. >> stop and say that again. chris matthews said it last night. maybe he was hailed at chief one too times. >> no one has spoken to him that way. no one has tried to interrupt him in...
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over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight. >> chris, thank you. >> good evening. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs moderating this debate. >> i'm jim lehrer and welcome you to the first of the 2012l presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former, massachusetts governor mitt romney the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored byo the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15 minute segments with two minutt answers f
over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight....
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so, basically, romney says, obama comes on stage, says 20 years ago i became the luckiest man honor they because michelle obama agreed to marry me. happy anniversary. next year we won't be celebrating in front of 40 million people. mild chuckle. romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would tell his facts, he would tell his truth, he would do it with vigor, and you can study every master, you connect emotionally, articulate your viewpoint and people believe in perception of your command. last night he was unquestioned in terms of his supremacy. >> that was significant. while romney was freely contradicting all of the previous romneys, he was unchal
so, basically, romney says, obama comes on stage, says 20 years ago i became the luckiest man honor they because michelle obama agreed to marry me. happy anniversary. next year we won't be celebrating in front of 40 million people. mild chuckle. romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than...
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than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more aggressive. can he be more persuasive about his own plans? >> and mitt romney ought to be more aggressive in pushing the president to talk about his agenda. because of course the president is tying him to the ryan budget, for better or worse, what is he going to do about medicare, what's he going to do about tax reform. it is true that romney hasn't put a lot of meat on the bones when it comes to what he would do to reform the tax code. what deductions would he cap. he started getting at that a little bit this past week. well, then why doesn't he push the president for some more details and the president can push back? i think with the american public, and i think you're 100% right. they want to say okay, where would you take us in the next four years? there's a danger of appearing to be over ambition. >> i think stopping the r
than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more aggressive. can he be more persuasive about his own plans? >> and mitt romney ought to be more aggressive in pushing the president to talk about his agenda. because of course the president is tying him to the ryan budget, for better or worse, what is he going to do about medicare, what's he going to do...